Water and Spirit

a man in a blue dress is in the water

I read this scripture in John 3:5, then listened to the conversation between Jesus and Nicodemus. Close attention is given to “Born of Water and Spirit”.

No one can enter the Kingdom of God unless he is born of water and Spirit. John 3:1-12

I was baptized at age 11. I remember the cold water and a feeling that I never experienced. Going to Church was different for me after baptism.

Incidents happened where chills and warmth flowed through my body during service. It was an unexplainable feeling. Actually, as a child it was frightening.

I started to see things in dreams and visions. Certain places I went had already been visited in my dreams. People’s faces were familiar because they were in my dreams. I kept quiet because I did not want people to think I was mad.

As I read this verse today -curious thoughts came to mind. I asked the Lord this question: Can a person be born of water and not Spirit at baptism and salvation?

And the Lord Said,

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. John 14:15-17

7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. 12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. John 16:7-14

Talking Point

What does the Son of Perdition mean?

John 17:12

2 Thessalonians 2:1-4


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